How right you are on all counts! I too am thoroughly disgusted at the "normalization" of extreme onstage sexual scenes, exactly as you've described it all. Thank you for your insight and constant information on so many fronts. BTW I have loved your insightful books.
oy... we are definitely moving backward. Now the Psychology of Women division young members want to change their name to not include just women because it makes some who don't identify as a woman feel bad! What are we doing to ourselves!
Lenore Walker disregarded the research of Straus, Steinmetz and Gelles, who found that women batter men as often as the converse. Feminists made death threats against the three sociologists to try to silence them.
You have named Lenore Walker and you’re providing no proof other than hearsay I’d like to see Death threats that Lenore Walker made so until you can show me that And your point hasn’t been proven
Once upon a Time, I had a bad relationship. It doesn’t mean, I think that all men suck or are bad. I think men are great much of the time, but for some reason, you are bashing Dr. Walker, and until you can show me concrete evidence of what you stated Attached to her name you have not proved anything . on the contrary, it looks like you’re trying to slander somebody and are wrongly accusing them. There is good and bad in every gender and every race and creed
Ok thanks for the prompt response. What I am asking for is proof that that feminists tried to cover this up. I don’t contest that this happens or has happened . I want the proof that “feminists” covered it up or tried to do so.
Are you familiar with the work of Straus, Steinmetz and Gelles? Back in the 1970s, they found that women batter men as often as the converse. Feminists made death threats against the three, to try to silence them.
And here you are attacking Dr Lenore Walker and blaming her here and then admitting that they were anonymous threats ? Really frank? I am not going to attack you because I am getting bored with this narrative . Also, I don’t know you or how you suffered or what your problem is. That thing said you proved nothing here other than the fact that you tried to defame somebody based on the fact that she’s a woman and a feminist and bro that’s really messed up.
So the discourse is hereby discontinued. You haven’t proved your point. Go crawl under a rock.
Their work or their paper provides no proof that feminist tried to hurt block or silence them it’s hearsay do you have concrete proof to show me thank you very much
Suzanne Steinmetz, a domestic violence researcher, faced significant backlash and threats from some feminist groups. Steinmetz was one of the first to study male victimization in domestic violence, which led to her being targeted by feminists who felt her work undermined feminist narratives. She received threatening phone calls, and her family was harassed. Additionally, there were reports of a bomb threat directed at her during a speaking engagement.
Steinmetz's work was met with resistance, and she faced professional challenges as well, with some feminists lobbying against her tenure and promotion.
The threats and harassment she experienced were part of a broader pattern of resistance to research that challenged the prevailing feminist view on domestic violence.
And terrorists go to great lengths to remain anonymous, so that they can stay out of jail.
You are oh so right, dear Phyllis! It never ceases to amaze me that women themselves fall for these monsters, instead of for men who treat them with respect and kindness. It isn't only men who need to be re-educated to the principle of equality of women and men, the two wings of humanity, it is women themselves, as we don't yet all believe it. (Nan Ackerman)
There are very few women that recognize the instrinsic worth of men, and treat them with respect and kindness. Feminists in Congress created 10 offices for women's health, and ZERO offices for men's health. If you want men to treat you with respect and kindness, try treating men with basic respect for their worth as human beings.
There are a growing number of women that reject feminism, and respect and value men. Those are the women men want. Feminists will grow old alone.
The only offices dedicated to women's health are those labeled as such, while the rest (the majority) are the default of men's health. Because I can have a bank account and credit in my own name, and because the law states females cannot be paid less than males doing the same job (I remember those days very clearly) that means I don't respect men? Perhaps the problem is you don't respect women.
I respect women, but not man-hating feminists that claim the default is male, when it obviously is not. The reality is that the average male life expectancy is six years shorter, and that men die before women in greater numbers and at younger ages from every major cause of death in the USA. And there are 4 times more male suicides than female suicides.
Speaking of employment, I have received 3 employment settlements for sex discrimination against men.
LOL an average woman might have close proximity with 30 men on a given day - on the bus, on the street, at work, at school, at the gym, etc. 99.9% of those encounters will be uneventful.
Now, let's place her in close proximity with 30 bears. How do you think that will work out?
something else you should know about bears: they eat their prey alive. There was one case where a bear mauled a woman, and she had time to get out her phone and call her mother to say goodbye.
I read that story. It would be reasonably quick rather than many femicide cases. Besides, Don’t you know a metaphor when it bites you while you’re out trolling?
I’m an old man living in a beach town in Florida. Every year at spring break the kids coming flooding to the beach. The girls are as close to naked as possible. The boys wear long bathing suits and often a tee shirt. My point is not that “they’re asking for it”. But that the over sexualization of our society has reached the point that it has become normal that girls are taught that it’s ok to walk around naked in public. And I’m not even talking about Daytona or Miami
Fashion changes. Are you old enough to remember when males wore Speedos? I would describe that as close to naked as possible. How about when a male is out mowing his lawn shirtless because it's hot out? Many of those girls are just enjoying the breeze and the water. Certainly, some are doing more than enjoying the breeze, and I do agree our society is oversexualized, but female choices are too often considered through a male lens.
For me there are mostly clear-cut lines. Any adult physically held against his or her will or verbally threatened for non-compliance and no way out is not responsible for the violent actions committed by another. Again, I did not watch the trial, but I couldn't miss the violent security video of PD slamming and dragging his old girlfriend around. Too bad he wasn't prosecuted at the time for that attack. From what I did glean from headlines was a bunch of money and celebrity hungry people participated in some orgies hosted by PD. I also picked up that there was some coercion and maybe some rape and human trafficking. "Coercion" is a loose term, imo. I remember reading some of the accuser stories about Weinstein and Cosby. Some actually stated Cosby offered a pill and they agreed to take it and let him do whatever because that's what it took to get a role (to paraphrase from my memory). That is prostitution, not rape. There was one young woman, a waitress, who did not take a drug and ran from him (and was chased) when she realized what he intended. That would be attempted rape. Same kind of stories with Weinstein, except for Lupita Nyong'o. Invited to his home where he implied he was hosting others, she removed herself as fast as she could when nobody else showed up and he slithered over to her, She wrote she would wait for a role with someone else where she didn't have to whore herself. The results speak. Let me make clear I do not feel sorry for any of these males. No-one should have to choose between prostitution or choosing a new career. Prison time isn't enough punishment, but my sympathy only extends so far for those women in a toxic, co-dependent relationship. I remember the days when women in violent homes had no place to go, even not back to their families who would tell them to put up with their abusive husbands as the women had no value outside their marriage. I also remember having to put up with dodging the handsy jerks at work back in the 70's and 80's. I did successfully go after one early in my Navy career. In the USA (in most places), we are not even close to those days. I would be willing to help any woman get out of a bad situation and legally go after the abuser, but addiction to drama and fear of change (for both men and women) are powerful emotions. Then there's the desire to hang around celebrity and money at any cost. Too many men and women in this great country are devolving, as you described the degrading videos.
Seems like we are running backward and lightning speed.
Boys will be boys and Girls should know better and “ask for it “ when they don’t conform to the rules , that there will be consequences to pay … why ? Because we are women and we are supposed to know better… we know how men are and that we oughtnt be temptresses less we ask for it and deserve what happens to us .
BULLSh$$. Dr. Chesler . You and others did so much work to make this country a better, safer, and more equal place for women. WTF happened here in the past few decades? Diddy is an evil predator and perpetrator. And guess what else? Just because some one is 18 or above,
It doesn’t mean that they have the maturity or “seichel” of an adult. So anyone here who wants to victim, shame, and woman blame ought educate themselves further and think several times about the lack of sensitivity they show towards the victims, both male and female and especially for blaming the young women here. Chronologically perhaps they are women but many come from desperate situations and they weren’t taught instead of you being all self-righteous and the first point the finger how about reaching out to some of these women and helping them with your compassion and directing them towards education and resources.
Really? Women continue to be exempt from military draft registration and conscription, but not men. Women can refuse parenthood, but not men. The feminists in Human Resources openly discriminate against men, and as a result, I have received three employment settlements for sex discrimination against men. Large numbers of men are now shunning women, dating, and marriage. Nice work, feminists!
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what I can't stand is the crowds of screaming teen-age girls who LOVE this guy.
Agree completely Phyllis. It’s very disheartening to see these arguments especially coming from females.
How right you are on all counts! I too am thoroughly disgusted at the "normalization" of extreme onstage sexual scenes, exactly as you've described it all. Thank you for your insight and constant information on so many fronts. BTW I have loved your insightful books.
oy... we are definitely moving backward. Now the Psychology of Women division young members want to change their name to not include just women because it makes some who don't identify as a woman feel bad! What are we doing to ourselves!
I changed my pronouns
Jew , Jioux , Zionist , Bitch…
I am 62 and it works for me
Maybe I should change my last name
Jewman or Bitchman
Such a sorry state of affairs here
Thank you for your work on Domestic violence Dr. Lenore walker ❤️ it was meaningful . You helped many.
Lenore Walker disregarded the research of Straus, Steinmetz and Gelles, who found that women batter men as often as the converse. Feminists made death threats against the three sociologists to try to silence them.
You have named Lenore Walker and you’re providing no proof other than hearsay I’d like to see Death threats that Lenore Walker made so until you can show me that And your point hasn’t been proven
Once upon a Time, I had a bad relationship. It doesn’t mean, I think that all men suck or are bad. I think men are great much of the time, but for some reason, you are bashing Dr. Walker, and until you can show me concrete evidence of what you stated Attached to her name you have not proved anything . on the contrary, it looks like you’re trying to slander somebody and are wrongly accusing them. There is good and bad in every gender and every race and creed
Dr Walker talks about battered women, but makes no mention of battered men.
Like who , what , and where Frank?if your accusing Someone or trying to expose a truth , back it up with facts. I’ll wait.
You didn't have to wait long.
https://www.humanrightsaction.org/violence/Fiebert/english.html
Ok thanks for the prompt response. What I am asking for is proof that that feminists tried to cover this up. I don’t contest that this happens or has happened . I want the proof that “feminists” covered it up or tried to do so.
Are you familiar with the work of Straus, Steinmetz and Gelles? Back in the 1970s, they found that women batter men as often as the converse. Feminists made death threats against the three, to try to silence them.
Who are the feminist that tried to silence them and made death threats? And where is your proof that they did so here we are 50 years later.
They made anonymous death threats, so as not to be identified. They also phoned in a bomb threat when Suzanne Steinmetz’ daughter got married.
https://en.wikimannia.org/Suzanne_K._Steinmetz
And here you are attacking Dr Lenore Walker and blaming her here and then admitting that they were anonymous threats ? Really frank? I am not going to attack you because I am getting bored with this narrative . Also, I don’t know you or how you suffered or what your problem is. That thing said you proved nothing here other than the fact that you tried to defame somebody based on the fact that she’s a woman and a feminist and bro that’s really messed up.
So the discourse is hereby discontinued. You haven’t proved your point. Go crawl under a rock.
No, Lenore Walker only mentions battered women, and makes no mention of battered men. She is clearly biased
Their work or their paper provides no proof that feminist tried to hurt block or silence them it’s hearsay do you have concrete proof to show me thank you very much
Here is the results of a Brave.com search:
Suzanne Steinmetz Threatened
Suzanne Steinmetz, a domestic violence researcher, faced significant backlash and threats from some feminist groups. Steinmetz was one of the first to study male victimization in domestic violence, which led to her being targeted by feminists who felt her work undermined feminist narratives. She received threatening phone calls, and her family was harassed. Additionally, there were reports of a bomb threat directed at her during a speaking engagement.
Steinmetz's work was met with resistance, and she faced professional challenges as well, with some feminists lobbying against her tenure and promotion.
The threats and harassment she experienced were part of a broader pattern of resistance to research that challenged the prevailing feminist view on domestic violence.
And terrorists go to great lengths to remain anonymous, so that they can stay out of jail.
You are oh so right, dear Phyllis! It never ceases to amaze me that women themselves fall for these monsters, instead of for men who treat them with respect and kindness. It isn't only men who need to be re-educated to the principle of equality of women and men, the two wings of humanity, it is women themselves, as we don't yet all believe it. (Nan Ackerman)
There are very few women that recognize the instrinsic worth of men, and treat them with respect and kindness. Feminists in Congress created 10 offices for women's health, and ZERO offices for men's health. If you want men to treat you with respect and kindness, try treating men with basic respect for their worth as human beings.
There are a growing number of women that reject feminism, and respect and value men. Those are the women men want. Feminists will grow old alone.
Total crap.
Something you should know: feminists in Congress made sure that three times more taxpayer funds are spent on breast cancer than prostate cancer
The only offices dedicated to women's health are those labeled as such, while the rest (the majority) are the default of men's health. Because I can have a bank account and credit in my own name, and because the law states females cannot be paid less than males doing the same job (I remember those days very clearly) that means I don't respect men? Perhaps the problem is you don't respect women.
I respect women, but not man-hating feminists that claim the default is male, when it obviously is not. The reality is that the average male life expectancy is six years shorter, and that men die before women in greater numbers and at younger ages from every major cause of death in the USA. And there are 4 times more male suicides than female suicides.
Speaking of employment, I have received 3 employment settlements for sex discrimination against men.
Choose the bear. So we have to defer to men’s rights first? Alone is better.
LOL an average woman might have close proximity with 30 men on a given day - on the bus, on the street, at work, at school, at the gym, etc. 99.9% of those encounters will be uneventful.
Now, let's place her in close proximity with 30 bears. How do you think that will work out?
Oh good! This is where I get to invoke “can’t you take a joke?”
something else you should know about bears: they eat their prey alive. There was one case where a bear mauled a woman, and she had time to get out her phone and call her mother to say goodbye.
I read that story. It would be reasonably quick rather than many femicide cases. Besides, Don’t you know a metaphor when it bites you while you’re out trolling?
I’m an old man living in a beach town in Florida. Every year at spring break the kids coming flooding to the beach. The girls are as close to naked as possible. The boys wear long bathing suits and often a tee shirt. My point is not that “they’re asking for it”. But that the over sexualization of our society has reached the point that it has become normal that girls are taught that it’s ok to walk around naked in public. And I’m not even talking about Daytona or Miami
Fashion changes. Are you old enough to remember when males wore Speedos? I would describe that as close to naked as possible. How about when a male is out mowing his lawn shirtless because it's hot out? Many of those girls are just enjoying the breeze and the water. Certainly, some are doing more than enjoying the breeze, and I do agree our society is oversexualized, but female choices are too often considered through a male lens.
women routinely show their parts off. I have seen female medical doctors here on Substack showing themselves in blouses that show off their breasts.
Diddy is an absolute scumbag.
For me there are mostly clear-cut lines. Any adult physically held against his or her will or verbally threatened for non-compliance and no way out is not responsible for the violent actions committed by another. Again, I did not watch the trial, but I couldn't miss the violent security video of PD slamming and dragging his old girlfriend around. Too bad he wasn't prosecuted at the time for that attack. From what I did glean from headlines was a bunch of money and celebrity hungry people participated in some orgies hosted by PD. I also picked up that there was some coercion and maybe some rape and human trafficking. "Coercion" is a loose term, imo. I remember reading some of the accuser stories about Weinstein and Cosby. Some actually stated Cosby offered a pill and they agreed to take it and let him do whatever because that's what it took to get a role (to paraphrase from my memory). That is prostitution, not rape. There was one young woman, a waitress, who did not take a drug and ran from him (and was chased) when she realized what he intended. That would be attempted rape. Same kind of stories with Weinstein, except for Lupita Nyong'o. Invited to his home where he implied he was hosting others, she removed herself as fast as she could when nobody else showed up and he slithered over to her, She wrote she would wait for a role with someone else where she didn't have to whore herself. The results speak. Let me make clear I do not feel sorry for any of these males. No-one should have to choose between prostitution or choosing a new career. Prison time isn't enough punishment, but my sympathy only extends so far for those women in a toxic, co-dependent relationship. I remember the days when women in violent homes had no place to go, even not back to their families who would tell them to put up with their abusive husbands as the women had no value outside their marriage. I also remember having to put up with dodging the handsy jerks at work back in the 70's and 80's. I did successfully go after one early in my Navy career. In the USA (in most places), we are not even close to those days. I would be willing to help any woman get out of a bad situation and legally go after the abuser, but addiction to drama and fear of change (for both men and women) are powerful emotions. Then there's the desire to hang around celebrity and money at any cost. Too many men and women in this great country are devolving, as you described the degrading videos.
Once again, you have hit the nail on the head.
Oy vay Dr. Chesler ,
Seems like we are running backward and lightning speed.
Boys will be boys and Girls should know better and “ask for it “ when they don’t conform to the rules , that there will be consequences to pay … why ? Because we are women and we are supposed to know better… we know how men are and that we oughtnt be temptresses less we ask for it and deserve what happens to us .
BULLSh$$. Dr. Chesler . You and others did so much work to make this country a better, safer, and more equal place for women. WTF happened here in the past few decades? Diddy is an evil predator and perpetrator. And guess what else? Just because some one is 18 or above,
It doesn’t mean that they have the maturity or “seichel” of an adult. So anyone here who wants to victim, shame, and woman blame ought educate themselves further and think several times about the lack of sensitivity they show towards the victims, both male and female and especially for blaming the young women here. Chronologically perhaps they are women but many come from desperate situations and they weren’t taught instead of you being all self-righteous and the first point the finger how about reaching out to some of these women and helping them with your compassion and directing them towards education and resources.
My thoughts are.. these "victims" will be right back in Ditty's bed as soon as he is sprung from prison..
Really? Women continue to be exempt from military draft registration and conscription, but not men. Women can refuse parenthood, but not men. The feminists in Human Resources openly discriminate against men, and as a result, I have received three employment settlements for sex discrimination against men. Large numbers of men are now shunning women, dating, and marriage. Nice work, feminists!
Oy vay….. diatribe
I suspect he's a troll.
I am done answering him. I bet you’re right.
Or an incel.